Vandalism at the Southlakes Rec Center

Submitted by thebyrd on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 12:32pm.

Saturday night/early morning between the hours of 2AM and 7AM, the Southlake Recreation Center had 3 large rocks thrown through 3 different windows. It had to be after 2AM because that is when the off-duty police officer left the area. The teenagers have also jumped up and down on the picnic table chairs until they are no longer usable. Several graffiti marks have been placed in the area with a reference to "pigs" so it would appear that the off-duty police are working to some extent at curbing some of the vandalism. The kids slide and jungle gym has several choice words written on them. The close proximity to the high school and easy access for walking through Southlake Recreation property make it a prime hang out for smoking and vandalism during and right after school. This is just a huge expense to the Southlake Recreation Association that you can not budget in anticipation. It also makes the park area less desirable for parents to take their smaller children to enjoy the amenities and be exposed to the trash writings.

Submitted by Windward1 on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 4:52pm.

So they're at it again 'eh?...Don't they have lights by the field, clubhouse and playground on every night (even after 2AM)? It takes some bold little idiots to pull that with those houses in plain veiw of the playground and clubhouse.

Submitted by jeanw on Thu, 01/10/2008 - 12:17pm.

Who is letting their kids out after 2 am? Here is (and my apologies for the length) the curfew regulation from Pwcgov.org:

Prince William County Curfew for Juveniles

Effective July 1, 1997

Ordinance 16-3, Code of Prince William County, Virginia, makes it unlawful, in Prince William County, for anyone 17 years of age, or less, to be, or remain, in any public place between the hours of:
11 p.m. and 5 a.m.
Sunday through Thursday,

and between the hours of
11:59 p.m. and 5 a.m.
Friday and Saturday.

Are there Exemptions?
Certain circumstances may exempt some juveniles from the Curfew Law. The exemptions are as follows:

when accompanied by a parent, guardian, or other adult person to whom the minor has been temporarily entrusted.

when engaged in an errand for a parent, guardian, or other adult person to whom the minor has been temporarily entrusted.
when engaged in lawful employment.
when attending an official school function, religious activity, civic function or recreational activity sponsored by a county or civic organization, or similar entity, and including travel to and from.
when involved in an emergency.
when in a vehicle during interstate travel.
when on property or sidewalk abutting residence with permission of parent or guardian.
when married, previously married, or emancipated.
when participating in activities exercising First Amendment rights.
when a minor is attending a scheduled performance at an entertainment business with the written permission of the minor’s parent or guardian.

What happens to Violators?
Minors detained for a violation of the Juvenile Curfew Ordinance may be arrested; may be taken to a Juvenile Curfew Center; may be released to the custody of a parent or guardian; may be released after the issuance of a summons for Court, or may be issued a warning.
What are the Penalties?
1st Offense - in lieu of a fine, the Court may impose community service of up to 50 hours.
2nd Offense - the penalty shall be a fine of not less than $200 and/or up to 100 hours community service.

3rd Offense - the penalty shall be a fine of not less than $350 and/or up to 200 hours community service.

Parents of minors who are arrested and transported to a curfew center must pay a processing fee.

What is the Parent’s Responsibility?
It is unlawful for the parent or guardian, or other adult person responsible for the care and custody of the minor, to knowingly permit, or by insufficient parental control to allow, any such minor to violate the Juvenile Curfew Ordinance.

Upon second or subsequent conviction of this offense, the Court may impose a fine or jail sentence.
What is Local Business Responsibility?
It is unlawful for the owner, manager, employee, or any other person having control of any business open to the public, during its business hours, to knowingly permit any minor to remain on the business property during curfew hours unless the minor is (a) accompanied by a parent or guardian or other adult person responsible for the care and custody of the minor; (b) engaged in lawful employment at the business; or (c) engaged in an errand directed by his parent or guardian or other adult person responsible for the care and custody of the minor.

Upon conviction, the Court may impose a fine or jail sentence. There is no violation if the minor refused to leave after being requested to do so, and the owner, manager, or employee promptly notified the police of the violation.

Submitted by Windward1 on Fri, 01/11/2008 - 12:36pm.

I seriously doubt that there are any parents in our community that would knowingly let a minor stay out as late as 2AM (at least I hope not). I would imagine that this type of vandalism is the work of the 13-16yr old kids with no car and still have sleepovers at each other's houses. Sneaking-out seems to be most popular in that age group. Unfortunately unless you have one of those annoying alarm systems that broadcasts throughout the house every time a window or door is opened, it'd be hard to catch 'em in the act. Kids will be kids but the vandalism is going way too far.

Submitted by mcconnellsts on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 4:05pm.

I’ve been living in Southlakes way before the High School was ever built and the Recreation Center was the site of many vandalisms, so lets not jump on the walk way.

The walk way provides easy access for dozens of our Southlakes students to get to school “without walking 10 miles barefoot in the snow uphill both ways”. You stated that this vandalism occurred between 2:00 – 7:00 am, Saturday, I really don’t think Forest Park High School was conducting classes during those hours, so again why would your remarks deal with the walk way.

If the pathway allows school aged kids access to the park during school hours, then the SLRC management company, SLRC board member or any SLRC member can make a quick call to the Forest Park High School Principal’s Office, their SRO (School Resource Officer) would be able to respond on truancy issues.

I love the comment about “it’s a prime hang out for smoking”, I guess smoking leads to vandalism…so get back in the “Wayback Machine” and remember your school days…did you have under aged smokers back then…were they vandals? Graffiti is all around our community and not just the recreation center.

But I really have a problem about the general comment of the “walkway” as the problem. I urge you drive up and watch either the morning or afternoon flow of students using that footpath and see the kids that use that walkway. Put yourself in their shoes…that walkway is a benefit to our community.

Now if you want to talk about grown adults, most of them with kids in the car, speeding in our community…then I’m there with you on that one.

Submitted by thebyrd on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 2:11am.

There are these neat inventions.. buses. I bet they had them way back then when it was up hill bothways 10 feet of snow with a cougar on your back too. What they don't have now is a good whipping for doing stupid things or the trust of the kids to rat out the "cool kids" who are costing the south lake rec association to deal with lots of vandalism costs.
The walkways and proximity to the high school make it prime for some vandalism to be done on their way home or when a class has been cut. I didn't elude to the 2am vandalism b/c of the walkway. It was the rest of the vandalism to all the other things as a result of the walkway. And smoking is not the only activity that the young kids over there are engaging in. You might run across a few adult recreational items discarded in and around the playground. Calling the school to deal with truancy has proven to be a dead end.

We are not going to see eye to eye on this subject. You like the walkways. I think they just increase the teenage traffic through the the south lake rec property that results in a greater amount of vandalism. I don't have facts to back it up .. just opinion. I don't believe that if the walkway were gone that the vandalism would stop. I just believe that it would be less frequent.

I did notice that the wooden barriers up at the south lake rec center around the dumpsters were burnt down to the ground this past week. I can only imagine it is the same little firebug that burnt down the pier out on the lake.

Submitted by mcconnellsts on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 8:43am.

We'll never see eye to eye on the high school walkway...

I see dozen of the very best and brightest students using that pathway...many of them excelling in college as we type. You see kids run amuck, having sex, smoking cigarettes, doing drugs and destroying property. Again, this kind of conduct and activity was being done prior to the high school being built and Southlake was still being developed…it’s the location, not the walkway!

You’ve just hammered the schools math investigations on one side, commenting on the amount of homework the kids do these days…so why make it even harder to tote those 50 lbs of books on a much long hike than necessary…let reward those kids and find a way to curb those goofballs that don’t respect others or community property.

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